[Column] Is Tepco injecting liquid nitrogen into reactor1 ?

<This is a column of my guess. Not an article with solid source.>

 

Since the end of September, Fukushima Diary has been reporting the repetitive increase of the temperature inside of reactor1 PCV.

(cf. PCV temperature picked up in reactor1 again)

It had been stable at 56℃, but it jumped up and down between 60℃ and 70℃.

Though there was no official announcement about this phenomena, Fukushima Diary reported the connection between the RPV water level and PCV temperature.

(cf. Reactor1 losing water and temperature is in increasing trend)

From the end of September, the water level in RPV has been the lowest level since this July. On the day when the RPV water level was low, the PCV temperature went up.

[Column] Is Tepco injecting liquid nitrogen into reactor1 ? 2

Tepco hasn’t given any announcement about this either.

However, the temperature turned to be in decreasing trend since 10/23/2012 as you see by the blue line on the graph below. [Link]

 

[Column] Is Tepco injecting liquid nitrogen into reactor1 ?

 

On 10/23/2012, Tepco started injecting nitrogen gas into reactor1. The reason is supposed to control density of hydrogen gas, but whether it was expected or not, the PCV temperature is decreasing. They are injecting nitrogen gas into suppression chamber and also RPV.

(cf. To avoid the risk of explosion, Tepco is to inject nitrogen gas to suppression chamber of reactor1 for a month)

However, the RPV water level is decreasing more than ever. Since 10/23/2012, it has been decreasing from -1.64m to -1.81m.

 

This is not the first time that you see this strange connection between PCV temperature and nitrogen gas injection.

In Earlier 2012, Tepco had one of the nitrogen gas injection equipment stopped by strong wind.

They were injecting nitrogen gas to avoid the risk of hydrogen gas explosion, but the temperature increased by 6.4℃ only within 90 minutes while the nitrogen gas injection was stopped.

(cf. Reactor 1 goes over 100℃ within 8 hours without nitrogen injection)

Why does it get cooled down when they inject nitrogen gas ?

In this April, Fukushima Diary asked a freelance journalist to give the query to Tepco.

In the daily press conference, Tepco answered it was because the thermometer is located near the jet of nitrogen gas.

They explain, the jet makes the thermometer indicate it as if the temperature was going down like you feel cool in front of a fan or an air-conditioner. (I shall find out the ustream video when they were explaining it by using a white board.)

The temperature of the nitrogen gas is supposed to be as hot/cold as outside air.

 

Anyway, the nitrogen gas seems to cool down the thermometer of PCV.

 

In Chernobyl, Soviet union injected liquid nitrogen for coolant material. [Wikipedia]

With the bubbler pool gone, a meltdown was less likely to produce a powerful steam explosion. To do so, the molten core would now have to reach the water table below the reactor. To reduce the likelihood of this, it was decided to freeze the earth beneath the reactor, which would also stabilize the foundations. Using oil drilling equipment, the injection of liquid nitrogen began on 4 May. It was estimated that 25 metric tons of liquid nitrogen per day would be required to keep the soil frozen at −100 °C.[18]:59 This idea[67] was soon scrapped and the bottom room where the cooling system would have been installed was filled with concrete.

 

By the way, if nitrogen gas injection manipulates the thermometer of reactor1, it is another problem because we can’t tell how much it is actually heated.

 

 

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Italiano:

[Editoriale] La Tepco sta iniettando liquido nitrogeno nel reattore 1?

<Questo è un editoriale composto da mie supposizioni. Non un articolo con fonti solide>

Dalla fine di Settembre, Fukushima Diary ha riportato il ripetitivo incremento della temperatura all’interno del PCV reattore 1.

(cf. PCV temperature picked up in reactor1 again)

E’ rimasta stabile a 56°C ma poi è balzata su e giù tra i 60°C e 70°C

Anche se non c’è stata alcuna comunicazione ufficiale su questo fenomeno, Fukushima Diary ha riportato la connessione tra il livello dell’acqua dell’RPV e la temperatura del PCV.

(cf. Reactor1 losing water and temperature is in increasing trend)

Dalla fine di Settembre il livello dell’acqua nell’RPV è stato il più basso da questo Luglio. La Tepco non ha dato alcuna comunicazione nemmeno su questo.

Comunque, la temperatura ha ricominciato a scendere dal 23/10/2012 come potete vedere nel grafico.

Il 23/10/2012 la Tepco ha iniziato iniettare gas nitrogeno nel reattore 1. Il motivo dovrebbe essere quello di controllare la densità del gas idrogeno ma, che fosse previsto o meno, la temperatura del PVC sta scendendo. Stanno iniettando gas nitrogeno nella camera di soppressione e nella RPV.

(cf. Per evitare il rischio di esplosione, la Tepco inietterà gas nitrogeno nella camera di soppressione del reattore 1 per un mese)

Comunque il livello dell’acqua dell’RPV sta scendendo più che mai. Dal 23/10/2012 è sceso da -1.64m a -1.81m

Non è la prima volta che vediamo questa strana connessione tra la temperatura del PCV e l’iniezione di gas nitrogeno.

All’inizio del 2012 la Tepco ha dovuto interrompere un iniezione di gas nitrogeno a causa del forte vento.

Stavano iniettando gas nitrogeno per evitare il rischio di un’esplosione di gas idrogeno ma la temperatura è aumentata di 6.4°C solo nei 90 minuti in cui l’iniezione di gas nitrogeno è stata interrotta.

(cf. Reactor 1 goes over 100℃ within 8 hours without nitrogen injection)

Perchè si raffredda con l’immissione di gas nitrogeno?

Questo Aprile Fukushima Diary ha chiesto a un giornalista freelance di porre la domanda alla Tepco.

Nella confenza stampa la Tepco ha risposto che accadeva perchè il termometro è posizionato accanto al getto di gas nitrogeno.

Hanno spiegato che il getto fa indicare al termometro una temperatura più bassa come se ci si posizionasse di fronte a un ventilatore o all’aria condizionata. (Devo trovare il video in cui lo spiegano utilizzando una lavagna bianca).

La temperatura del gas nitrogeno dovrebbe essere calda/fredda come l’aria esterna.

In ogni caso il gas nitrogeno sempre raffreddare il termometro della PCV.

A Chernobyl l’Unione Sovietica ha iniettato liqido nitrogeno come materiale raffreddante  [Wikipedia]

With the bubbler pool gone, a meltdown was less likely to produce a powerful steam explosion. To do so, the molten core would now have to reach the water table below the reactor. To reduce the likelihood of this, it was decided to freeze the earth beneath the reactor, which would also stabilize the foundations. Using oil drilling equipment, the injection of liquid nitrogen began on 4 May. It was estimated that 25 metric tons of liquid nitrogen per day would be required to keep the soil frozen at −100 °C.[18]:59 This idea[67] was soon scrapped and the bottom room where the cooling system would have been installed was filled with concrete.

 

Comunque sia, se effettivamente il gas nitrogeno modifica la temperatura del reattore, è un altro problema perchè non possiamo sapere quanto effettivamente questo sia surriscaldato.

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Français :

[Édito] Est-ce que Tepco injecte de l’azote dans le réacteur 1 ?

<Ceci est un éditorial de ma part, pas un article solidement sourcé.>

 

Depuis fin septembre, le Fukushima Diary a rapporté à maintes reprises les augmentations de température dans l’enceinte de confinement primaire (PCV) du réacteur 1. (cf. La température est encore montée en flèche dans le réacteur 1)

Elle a été stable autour des 56 ℃ mais elle monte et descend entre 60 ℃ et 70 ℃.

Bien qu’il n’y ait aucune communication officielle sur ce phénomène, le Fukushima Diary a rapporté le lien entre le niveau de l’eau dans la RPV et la température de la PCV. (cf. Le réacteur 1 perd de l’eau et sa température est sur la pente ascendante)

Depuis fin septembre, le niveau de l’eau dans la RPV est au plus bas depuis juillet dernier. Les jours où le niveau d’eau dans la RPV était bas, la température de la PCV est montée.

[Édito] Est-ce que Tepco injecte de l'azote dans le réacteur 1 ? 2

Tepco n’a rien publié là-dessus non plus.

Toutefois, la température est revenue sur la pente descendante depuis le 23 octobre 2012 comme vous le voyez sur la courbe bleue du graphique ci-dessous. [Lien]

[Édito] Est-ce que Tepco injecte de l'azote dans le réacteur 1 ?

Le 23 octobre 2012, Tepco a commencé à injecter de l’azote dans le réacteur 1. La raison est supposée en être pour contrôler la concentration en hydrogène gazeux mais, que ce soit prévu ou non, la température de la PCV descend. Ils injectent de l’azote dans la salle de surpression et aussi dans la RPV. (cf. Pour éviter le risque d’explosion, Tepco va injecter de l’azote dans la salle de surpression du réacteur 1 pendant un mois)

Toutefois, Le niveau d’eau dans la RPV décroît plus que jamais. Depuis le 23 octobre 2012, il est passé de -1,64 m à -1,81 m.

Ce n’est pas la première fois qu’on remarque cette étrange connexion entre la température de la PCV et une injection d’azote gazeux. Plus tôt e 2012, Tepco a vu un de ces appareils d’injection de l’azote arrêté par des vents forts.  Ils injectaient de l’azote gazeux pour parer au risque d’explosion d’hydrogène mais la température est montée de 6,4 ℃ en seulement 90 minutes à partir du moment où l’injection a été arrêtée. (cf. Le réacteur 1 dépasse les 100 ℃ dans les 8 heures sans injection d’azote)

Pourquoi se refroidit-il lorsqu’ils injectent de l’azote ?

En avril dernier, le Fukushima Diary a demandé à un journaliste indépendant de poser la question à Tepco.  Au cours de la conférence de presse quotidienne, Tepco a répondu que c’était parce que le thermomètre est situé près du jet de l’azote. Ils expliquent que le jet fait que le thermomètre indique une température plus basse comme quand on se sent plus au frais dans le courant d’air d’un ventilateur ou d’une climatisation. (Je vais retrouver la vidéo ustream où ils expliquent ça sur un tableau blanc.) La température de l’azote gazeux est supposée être aussi chaude/froide que l’air extérieur.  Quoi qu’il en soit, l’azote gazeux semble refroidir le thermomètre de la PCV.

A Tchernobyl, l’union soviétique a injecté de l’azote gazeux comme refroidisseur. [Wikipedia]

Sans la piscine à bulles, une fusion pourrait moins facilement provoquer une puissante explosion de vapeur. Pour y arriver, le coeur en fusion devrait maintenant atteindre la table de la nappe d’eau sous le réacteur. Pour réduire la probabilité que ça arrive, il a été décidé de congeler la terre sous le réacteur, ce qui devrait aussi en stabiliser les fondations. En utilisant un appareillage de forage à essence, l’injection d’azote liquide commença le 4 mai. On a estimé à 25 tonnes métriques d’azote liquide par jour la quantité nécessaire pour congeler le sol à −100 °C.[18]:59 Cette idée[67] a très vite été abandonnée et la salle du fond où le système de refroidissement aurait du être installé a été noyée par le béton.

En même temps, si l’injection d’azote gazeux perturbe le thermomètre du réacteur 1, on a un autre problème puisqu’on ne peut pas en connaître la chaleur réelle.

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This website updates the latest news about the Fukushima nuclear plant and also archives the past news from 2011. Because it's always updated and added live, articles, categories and the tags are not necessarily fitted in the latest format.
I am the writer of this website. About page remains in 2014. This is because my memory about 311 was clearer than now, 2023, and I think it can have a historical value. Now I'm living in Romania with 3 cats as an independent data scientist.
Actually, nothing has progressed in the plant since 2011. We still don't even know what is going on inside. They must keep cooling the crippled reactors by water, but additionally groundwater keeps flowing into the reactor buildings from the broken parts. This is why highly contaminated water is always produced more than it can circulate. Tepco is planning to officially discharge this water to the Pacific but Tritium is still remaining in it. They dilute this with seawater so that it is legally safe, but scientifically the same amount of radioactive tritium is contained. They say it is safe to discharge, but none of them have drunk it.

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