[Column] ALPS and frozen water wall can be the performance before discharging contaminated water to the Pacific

A person inside of Japanese government said, “Everyone knows Japanese government will end up discharging the contaminated water to the sea.”

Said, “It’s just obvious. There’s no even meaning to put it into words.”


The press reported that an elite bureaucrat said the contaminated water must inevitably be discharged to the Pacific.

This was the reaction of the person to read the article.


According to the decommissioning plan of Tepco and the government, there is no backup plan in case the multiple nuclide removing system and the frozen water wall don’t work. They place them as the last hope.


However, the multiple nuclide removing system stopped only 22 hours after the restart of the test operation.

Also, they have been trying to “freeze” the water since 8/22/2013 but it doesn’t even reach 0℃. Nothing works.


In reality, all those “efforts” can be considered to be a “performance” to look like they are trying to do something.

The bureaucrats know how it will end up in common. Engineers must share the same view.

It’s not only the discharge of the retained water. The contaminated water keeps increasing by hundreds of tonnes everyday. Giving it up means they will keep discharging it for 40 years or 60 years until they finally decommission the plant (if they manage to invent some miracle technology someday somehow.).


This would destroy the Pacific. Not to mention, the fishery industry along the Pacific and all the industry related to the sea can be damaged. The only theory to deny this possibility is “but the sea is big, maybe big enough”, that’s it.


To “justify” themselves to discharge the contaminated water, they need to be able to say “we did our best, but we can’t help discharging it”. So to speak, it’s an excuse.


I don’t know how to vanish the contaminated water from the earth myself. We need to be prepared for the worst.



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[Édito] ALPS et le mur d’eau congelée peuvent être la dernière commédie avant qu’ils déversent les eaux extrêmement radioactives dans le Pacifique


Un membre du gouvernement japonais a déclaré “Tout le monde sait que le gouvernement japonais va finir par déverser les eaux extrêmement radioactives dans l’océan”.
Soit : “C’est d’une évidence triviale. Cela va sans dire”.

La presse a rapporté qu’un haut bureaucrate a déclaré que les eaux extrêmement radioactives devront inévitablement être déversées dans le Pacifique.
C’était la réaction d’une personne lisant l’article.

Selon le plan de démantèlement de Tepco et du gouvernement, il n’y a pas de solution de repli si le système de filtration multi-nucléides et le mur d’eau congelée ne marchent pas. Ils en font leur dernier espoir.

Or, le système de filtration multi-nucléides s’est arrêté 22 heures seulement après la reprise de ses opérations de test.
En outre, ils essayent de “congeler” l’eau depuis le 22 août 2013 mais il n’atteignent même pas les 0 ℃. Rien ne marche.

En réalité, tous ces “efforts” peuvent être considérées comme des “spectacles”  visant à faire croire qu’ils essayent de faire quelque chose.
Les bureaucrates savent très bien comment ça va finir. Les ingénieurs doivent avoir le même point de vue.
Il ne s’agit pas du largage des eaux retenues. Les eaux extrêmement radioactives continuent d’augmenter par centaines de tonnes tous les jours. Baisser les bras sur ça c’est les déverser continuellement pendant 40 ou 60 ans, jusqu’à ce qu’ils démantèlement finalement la centrale (s’il arrivent éventuellement à inventer un miracle technique un jour).

Ça va détruire le Pacifique. Inutile de dire que les pêches dans le Pacifique et toutes les entreprises liées à la mer vont en souffrir. Le seul moyen de nier ça est d’affirmer que “la mer est grande, peut-être assez grande”, c’est comme ça.

Pour pouvoir “s’auto-justifier” de déverser les eaux extrêmement radioactives, ils doivent pouvoir dire “on a fait de notre mieux mais on ne peut pas éviter d’avoir à les déverser”. C’est une bonne excuse pour ainsi dire.

Je ne sais pas moi-même comment faire disparaître les eaux extrêmement radioactives de la terre. On doit se préparer au pire.

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  1. http www chinadaily com cn hkedition/ (2013-10/05/content_17010033) htm

    Home / HK Edition / Top News By Yu Zhirong (HK Edition) Updated: 2013-10-05 07:25

    World must act to stop Fukushima nuclear discharge

    The Japanese government has proposed to take measures to clean up the post-disaster nuclear waste by the end of March 2014. To this point, they have been simply dumping it into the sea.

    Estimates show that the daily outflow of underground water around Fukushima’s four nuclear units is 1,000 tons, of which 400 tons flows under the reactors. Of the other 600 tons, 300 tons flows through tunnels between the plants, polluted by the highly concentrated sewage, and then flows into the sea. The remaining 300 tons runs into the sea without pollution. TEPCO is trying to prevent more polluted water reaching the sea, via a new relief project, to reduce daily discharge to 60 tons.

    Since the severity of the issue continues, China, along with the international community, must propose the strongest opposition to the Japanese government’s irresponsible activities. At the same time, they must take positive measures to prevent pollution. Here are three suggestions.

    1. First, China and other neighboring countries must request the Japanese government take effective measures to stop the continuing discharge, and thus reduce the likelihood of oceanic environmental damage. The Pacific Ocean doesn’t belong to Japan, but is commonly owned by the international community, the environmental protection of which is fundamental to the safety and reproduction of human beings.

      Second, radioactive sewage discharge results must be published. China and the international community should demand that Japan reveal the results of objective scientific monitoring of the 11,500 tons of radioactive discharge over the past two years, and publish its scale, damage level, as well as a prevention and cure strategy. If the discharge cannot be suspended immediately because of technical limitations, scientific evaluation and projection must be done, followed by agreed measures thereafter. A 12-expert delegation, from Canada, China, Japan, Korea, Russia and the US, was created as the Northern Pacific Radioactive Environmental Quality Assessment Group, whose job is to monitor the resolution of these issues.

    2. 3rd, regulations must be set up to limit illegal actions. Currently, the oceanic environment is facing significant damage. China and the international community will jointly set up regulations on protecting the oceanic environment from radioactive pollution, after Fukushima. TEPCO must not only compensate the loss of its domestic victims, but also provide the international community with a clear commitment.

      The safety of the Pacific Ocean is one of the most important issues internationally. Conventional maritime security focus on ensuring maritime navigation safety, combating pirate attacks, preventing collisions and natural disaster. Now, preventing radioactive pollution becomes another issue. And the international community should keep on pushing the Japanese government to make more progress on this problem.

      The author is a researcher from the Shanghai Center for Japanese Studies. (HK Edition 10/05/2013 page5)

  2. Here is an idea. Since it is not possible to stop water from flowing, the get it to flow to a place where it does the least damage. Cheap tanks on seismically active land can never be the answer. There is a 9000 meter deep trench east of Fukushima. From Fukushima to the Japan Trench is about 200 kilometers. While there may be some life forms down there they generally do not ascend to the upper layers of the ocean. A physicist friend of mine said there was little danger from the radioactive materials in the ocean because the ocean is so large that the materials are diluted. THE PROBLEM is that the dilution to the whole ocean takes a long time. These materials need to go to a place where they are not a threat to the seafood supply. Large fish like tuna, travel across the oceans, so the radioactive materials are already contaminating the food supply. Since there is no way to easily measure the radioactivity in fish (because the fishes tissues effectively shield alpha and beta radiation from radiation detectors) no one can protect themselves from this radiation. A flexible large plastic pipe could be laid under the water the 250 km to the Japan trench, over thedge and down its 900 feet deep bottom. There the radioactivity can be gradually absorbed while preseving the surface layer fisheries. This would allow the radiactivity to be gradually dispersed far away from human population. A hundred tons of water is not that much because water weighs almost 1 kg per liter. It is actually a tiny amount compared to the ocean. It must be put in a safer place until decontamination is completed.

    1. Friends

      You should be more selective in picking your ‘friends’ … IMHO


      Bill Duff

    2. As a harm mitigation strategy it’s an excellent idea.

      Activists need to accept that once the nuclides exist there’s no way to get rid of them. You can only put them somewhere where they won’t cause harm to humans while you wait for them to decay away.

      1. Village Idiot

        Diemos has been referred to as V. I. Diemos, short for Village Idiot, previously, on another forum.

        The interested reader will likely soon know why.


        Bill Duff

  3. There’s no real way to ‘decontaminate’ the water or to store it for the long term. All of this effort is a public relations stunt.

    1. Japan Inc. has tried to ‘do this on the cheap’.

      Each stage of this rolling disaster has been made worse than necessary.

      A cleanup has been doable, from the beginning. A cleanup is still doable.

      It is not going to be cheap.


      Bill Duff

  4. Abe has assured us that any radiation is completely contained behind the magic silt nets. As long as they measure only the water in the diluted discharge stream, we can be assured that the radiation levels remain below ‘legal’ limits de jour.

    It can even be run through the ALPS system, just get rid of filters and anything else slowing the water path.

    It is going to go into the Pacific, the only questions are, when, how fast, the physics defying excuse from Abe and how many times they will bow and say they regret not being able to live up to our expectations.

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This website updates the latest news about the Fukushima nuclear plant and also archives the past news from 2011. Because it's always updated and added live, articles, categories and the tags are not necessarily fitted in the latest format.
I am the writer of this website. About page remains in 2014. This is because my memory about 311 was clearer than now, 2023, and I think it can have a historical value. Now I'm living in Romania with 3 cats as an independent data scientist.
Actually, nothing has progressed in the plant since 2011. We still don't even know what is going on inside. They must keep cooling the crippled reactors by water, but additionally groundwater keeps flowing into the reactor buildings from the broken parts. This is why highly contaminated water is always produced more than it can circulate. Tepco is planning to officially discharge this water to the Pacific but Tritium is still remaining in it. They dilute this with seawater so that it is legally safe, but scientifically the same amount of radioactive tritium is contained. They say it is safe to discharge, but none of them have drunk it.


October 2013